Earthcast2009 - Hour#3
Gator Radio Experience
April 22, 2009
 
 
A Discussion with students from
Shanghai No.3 Girls High School



Chat Log Below

22:00:52  Doug ->  please standby for Gator Radio: Earthcast 2009 Edition hour 1
22:01:09  Doug ->  do not adjust your sets
22:01:28  Doug ->  dating myself now :)
22:01:31  PeggyG ->  Gatorradio is well worth the wait!!
22:01:40  mrsdurff ->  indeed\
22:01:49  Scott Shelhart ->  My TV is still called a set sometimes
22:01:53  derrallg ->  @Doug where's the test pattern?
22:01:58  Doug ->  We'll be interviewing high school students at Shanghai Girls #3 School regarding their thoughts on environmental issues
22:02:02  PeggyG ->  funny derrallg
22:02:15  stephgatorradio ->  hi hi hi!
22:02:17  Doug ->  @derrallg :)
22:02:31  Doug ->  upcoming from GR: We'll be interviewing high school students at Shanghai Girls #3 School regarding their thoughts on environmental issues
22:02:31  Scott Shelhart ->  My 5th grad daughter is waiting to hear the show.
22:02:34  PeggyG ->  hi stephgatorradio-so great to have all of you here
22:02:44  Doug ->  that's hour one...
22:03:08  Sheila - NH, USA ->  I even remembered to record! Yeah!
22:03:08  Doug ->  hour two: Green construction and the present/future of the clean technology industry
22:03:15  Scott Shelhart ->  audio back on
22:03:20  mrsdurff ->  yeah!
22:03:32  kayytayy ->  yayy go steph! i'm so excited for the show
22:03:41  Doug ->  please click play button (again) if you still don't have audio
22:03:55  nicola-gatorradio ->  yay katie abd noelle :)
22:03:59  James Sigler ->  Love the music
22:04:03  mollygreen portsmouth, nh, usa ->  no audio here
22:04:10  kayytayy ->  hey nikki
22:04:13  Doug ->  shoutcast stream up for anyone unable to access via ustream
22:04:19  skuttle ->  hmm can't hear anything
22:04:57  PeggyG ->  I'm not getting audio either. Rats! Don't want to log out!
22:05:07  Doug ->  http://earthbridges.net:8008/listen.pls
22:05:15  Doug ->  or ustream
22:05:25  Doug ->  both will give you an echo :)
22:05:36  Scott Shelhart ->  usteram working for me.
22:05:44  mollygreen portsmouth, nh, usa ->  :)
22:05:51  mrsdurff ->  yup good audio now
22:07:23  skuttle ->  sorry but where is the play button? haha
22:07:35  mrsdurff ->  ustream
22:07:42  mrsdurff ->  one to the left
22:07:48  mrsdurff ->  click the arrow
22:07:48  Scott Shelhart ->  a\udio a little weak on this one...
22:08:14  skuttle ->  awesome thanks.
22:08:16  mrsdurff ->  connection with Shanghai making history
22:08:24  mollygreen portsmouth, nh, usa ->  very cool
22:08:26  carolteach4 ->  I'm was hearing some of the voice thread recordinging at first-was that correct?
22:08:32  carolteach4 ->  Who is speaking now?
22:08:44  mrsdurff ->  shanghai student
22:08:49  mrsdurff ->  hi did
22:08:52  mrsdurff ->  didi
22:08:54  PeggyG ->  welcome students from Shanghai!!
22:09:02  mrsdurff ->  i will learn to type some day
22:09:37  carolteach4 ->  What time of day is it in Shanghai?
22:09:41  PeggyG ->  nice intro :-)
22:10:07  Doug ->  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=22&year...
22:10:54  PeggyG ->  welcome Georgeanna
22:11:12  skuttle ->  the sound stopped....
22:11:16  didi ->  :(
22:11:20  Doug ->  llost it here too
22:11:24  mrsdurff ->  i thought it was just me
22:11:26  mollygreen portsmouth, nh, usa ->  :-
22:11:30  carolteach4 ->  @doug - thanks - 10am on Wednesday
22:11:46  katydel ->  hola
22:11:50  carolteach4 ->  I've lost the audio, too.
22:12:05  mrsdurff ->  hang on
22:12:14  PeggyG ->  I lost it on the stream but it continued on iTunes--now can just hear background noises--is anyone talking?
22:12:16  kayytayy ->  yes
22:12:18  carolteach4 ->  Please fix. This is really exciting hearing from students in Shanghai
22:12:19  mrsdurff ->  yes
22:12:22  PeggyG ->  now can hear Matt :-)
22:12:32  skuttle ->  hmm i still can't hear
22:12:35  didi ->  i can't hear anymore
22:12:42  kayytayy ->  same didi
22:12:46  mrsdurff ->  patience3
22:12:48  didi ->  hi katie!
22:12:52  kayytayy ->  oh. they're off air now.
22:12:54  kayytayy ->  hey!!
22:13:03  skuttle ->  bayytayy!
22:13:08  skuttle ->  oh i meant kayytayy
22:13:09  mrsdurff ->  he needs to take the stream and get in on the call
22:13:10  skuttle ->  haha sorry
22:13:11  stephgatorradio ->  woohooo
22:13:11  kayytayy ->  bayytayy
22:13:12  kayytayy ->  ahahah
22:13:14  mrsdurff ->  takes a few\
22:13:14  stephgatorradio ->  sorry guys
22:13:28  mrsdurff ->  not a problem gators
22:13:31  PeggyG ->  no problem Steph! sound will be back in a min
22:13:35  Sheila - NH, USA ->  We're patient.
22:13:38  stephgatorradio ->  thanks for listening!
22:13:39  mrsdurff ->  gators doing a wonderful job
22:13:51  Doug ->  please standby for  more Gator Radio Experience
22:13:52  mollygreen portsmouth, nh, usa ->  :)
22:13:55  stephgatorradio ->  we'lll be starting in a few mor minutes!
22:13:56  mrsdurff ->  there is always blood on the cutting edge
22:14:01  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  What can you do to help the earth?
22:14:04  JL ->  stream is back
22:14:08  mrsdurff ->  and gators are on that cutting edge
22:14:16  Doug ->  We'll be interviewing high school students at Shanghai Girls #3 School regarding their thoughts on environmental issues
22:14:20  Doug ->   will be right back
22:14:20  carolteach4 ->  stream not back for me
22:14:32  Sheila - NH, USA ->  Hit the reload button on ustream.
22:14:44  Doug ->  please standby and do not adjust your sets
22:15:03  mrsdurff ->  coffee time
22:15:07  Sheila - NH, USA ->  No audio yet, but the stream is up.
22:15:20  Sheila - NH, USA ->  What kind tonight MrsDurff?
22:15:31  Doug ->  or so it says--show 27 viewers, but getting no audio
22:15:58  PeggyG ->  I have full confidence in gatorradio!
22:16:16  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  Who has the stream?
22:16:16  MariaK ->  I have to leave now - enjoyed what i heard. Good luck - we've all had these issues once or twice or thrice! That's what makes webcasting so much fun!
22:16:19  stephgatorradio ->  hellllo!
22:16:23  Sheila - NH, USA ->  I've listened to Gator Radio before. They are professionals!
22:16:41  PeggyG ->  absolutely Sheila!!
22:16:58  Sheila - NH, USA ->  Think gator radio
22:17:02  derrallg ->  bye MariaK sleep well
22:17:03  Sheila - NH, USA ->  gator radio
22:17:04  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  Where can I listen to more
22:17:10  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  gator radio
22:17:11  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  ?
22:17:17  PeggyG ->  night Mariak
22:17:20  JL ->  I'm good to go if you need Matt
22:17:25  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  night Maria
22:17:32  Sheila - NH, USA ->  Peggy, do you have the URL for gator radio?
22:17:34  stephgatorradio ->  we'll be back in five mintues
22:17:42  stephgatorradio ->  we're having a little technical difficulty
22:17:47  PeggyG ->  http://gatorradio.blogspot.com/
22:17:48  stephgatorradio ->  thanks for your patience
22:17:51  stephgatorradio ->  :D
22:18:01  PeggyG ->  you can hear their archived shows on their blog
22:18:10  mrsdurff ->  time for everyone to twitter
22:18:10  skuttle ->  everyone listening just hang on. once it gets worked out it will be great!
22:18:11  Sheila - NH, USA ->  I knew you had it!  Peggy to the rescue again!
22:18:24  derrallg ->  @durff or plurk
22:18:30  PeggyG ->  it's my favorite radio show! :-)
22:18:32  mrsdurff ->  or ping
22:18:35  Sheila - NH, USA ->  Add yourself to the listener map, voicethread, or guestbook!
22:18:52  stephgatorradio ->  thanks noelle
22:18:59  Sheila - NH, USA ->  http://tinyurl.com/earthcast09guestbook, etc.
22:19:38  PeggyG ->  scroll down on the gatorradio blog and listen to the promo/teaser video for Earthcast09 while you wait :-)
22:20:13  mrsdurff ->  mmm. peggy, where you a principal? sounds like it
22:20:16  Sheila - NH, USA ->  Audio again!
22:20:27  carolteach4 ->  I have classes coming into the lab tomorrow morning to listen to parts of the Voice Thread and perhaps record some messages. Then what is best to show them from Earth Cast 09. Help, please.
22:20:40  PeggyG ->  that would be fantastic carolteach4
22:20:45  PeggyG ->  yeah audio now :-)
22:20:48  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  Yeah!
22:20:56  kayytayy ->  yay i hear!
22:21:01  skuttle ->  ya it's working! thank you!
22:21:13  mrsdurff ->  audio has returned
22:21:27  stephgatorradio ->  yessss
22:21:32  stephgatorradio ->  thanks for waiting :)
22:21:40  mrsdurff ->  Gators Rule!!
22:21:42  PeggyG ->  we're pushing Skype to its limit :-)
22:21:53  carolteach4 ->  nothing here - can you give us the other link again?
22:22:40  carolteach4 ->  I'm trying to connect with cgw.ustream.tv, but it's only spinning
22:23:08  mrsdurff ->  an English name? cool
22:23:16  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  This is cool
22:23:49  mrsdurff ->  hi wdpiper
22:23:56  PeggyG ->  what wonderful English! so glad she is with us!
22:23:59  mrsdurff ->  welcome to history
22:24:26  wdpiper ->  @mjmontagne... hey there
22:25:03  mjmontagne ->  wow the english is excellent!
22:25:12  Doug ->  http://earthbridges.net:8008/listen.pls running again
22:25:14  PeggyG ->  what a great example-riding bike and walking to school :-)
22:25:21  skuttle ->  yes, they are so good at english!
22:25:26  mjmontagne ->  Hey Pipes!!!
22:25:27  I love JerseyCows ->  hey
22:25:30  mjmontagne ->  thanks for joining us!
22:25:34  mjmontagne ->  Much appreciated
22:25:37  mrsdurff ->  i love jersey cows - hi
22:25:46  I love JerseyCows ->  hi
22:25:48  I love JerseyCows ->  theyre cute
22:26:01  PeggyG ->  such a great job Steph!!!
22:26:10  stephgatorradio ->  i try...
22:26:12  carolteach4 ->  Thanks for the link -was ready to give it up and go to bed -
22:26:26  mjmontagne ->  ahh, way, way too cool
22:26:27  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  Wow The host is only 18?  She sounds so professional.
22:26:34  wdpiper ->  i love how this is such a uniting event... thanks to all of the organizers for their hard work!
22:26:43  mrsdurff ->  younger i think
22:26:51  skuttle ->  they're coming to visit my chinese class and go around with us for a day!
22:26:54  skuttle ->  i can't wait!
22:27:17  mrsdurff ->  coming all that way for one day?
22:27:41  JL ->  http://www.jgi-shanghai.org
22:27:46  mrsdurff ->  look above for pictures of them
22:27:55  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  I get to visit Shanhai in June.  Their English is a whole lot better than my 3 weeks of Chinese
22:28:06  carolteach4 ->  This is so great.
22:28:20  JL ->  Looking at the school website
22:28:28  JL ->  looks like that have an 'ECO program'
22:28:30  mrsdurff ->  i know zero Chinese, so it must be better than mine
22:29:01  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  Wow, school web site in is English and Chinese
22:29:06  PeggyG ->  how lucky for us that there is a link on that page for English :-)
22:29:20  JL ->  got an organic garden at school - very cool
22:29:52  PeggyG ->  the bags they created were very cool :-)
22:30:27  mrsdurff ->  oh this is a senior
22:30:32  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  They have gone way beyond just recycling
22:30:39  mjmontagne ->  I gotta say, this is cool...
22:30:48  mjmontagne ->  the students in China have excellent English
22:30:59  mrsdurff ->  you're just now realising this matt
22:31:06  skuttle ->  really amazing!
22:31:32  wdpiper ->  I was thinking the same thing about how good the Chinese students' English is... wow!
22:31:34  Doug ->  it is--it's a beautiful thing when the adults get out of the way--great to hear youth connecting
22:31:45  mjmontagne ->  agreed doug
22:31:50  mjmontagne ->  it is awesome
22:32:03  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  incredible
22:32:07  PeggyG ->  can hear everything great!!
22:32:31  mjmontagne ->  thanks to the worldbridges elves Peggy!
22:32:47  PeggyG ->  absolutely--aren't they wonderful!!
22:32:50  mrsdurff ->  a Chinese name? How did they get Chinese names?
22:32:57  mrsdurff ->  hi ld
22:34:30  mjmontagne ->  Hey Pipes...
22:34:34  PeggyG ->  environment protection class? is that what she said?
22:34:43  JL ->  are there any environmental protection classes in US High Schools?
22:34:45  nicola-gatorradio ->  if anyone has any questions you can post to the chat
22:34:58  nicola-gatorradio ->  and we will try to answer them
22:35:22  wdpiper ->  sounds like you are working at a pretty progressive school Matt... very cool; your students are doing a great job!
22:35:27  PeggyG ->  do the Shanghai students participate in Facebook? they should join your group
22:35:31  skuttle ->  earthilleja!!!
22:35:48  mjmontagne ->  Hey Skuttle!
22:36:02  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  Their English is so good.  The even pronounce English "s"
22:36:08  skuttle ->  hey hey!
22:36:08  PeggyG ->  love that term!! earthilleja :-)
22:36:08  mjmontagne ->  Your friends steph and nicola are doing are great job!
22:36:47  PeggyG ->  do they have computers in their classrooms in Shanghai?
22:37:13  derrallg ->  they have different ways to connect ask them if they like QQ for communicating
22:37:22  mrsdurff ->  keep in mind they do not have these qts in advance - this is totally off the cuff
22:37:54  PeggyG ->  how does that work? no computers but computer lessons? how do they do that?
22:38:07  mrsdurff ->  carefully
22:38:08  derrallg ->  they probably use QQ
22:38:26  JL ->  Do they have any photos of their class or clubs online?
22:38:28  PeggyG ->  what is QQ?
22:38:29  stephgatorradio ->  does anyone have questions
22:38:34  stephgatorradio ->  ASK AWAY!
22:38:50  derrallg ->  @peggyG it's like MSN but very popular in China
22:38:51  skuttle ->  are they excited to visit my zhongwen class?!
22:38:55  mrsdurff ->  what do they hope for the earth?
22:39:01  PeggyG ->  thanks derrallg
22:39:14  James Sigler-MO,USA ->  I could listen to this all night, but I have a PLN preso tomorrow night, so need to finish final touches.
22:39:41  mrsdurff ->  be on till 7pm tomorrow - come again
22:39:45  mjmontagne ->  chau James
22:39:51  mjmontagne ->  thanks so much for your support of EC09
22:39:53  PeggyG ->  good luck tomorrow James-good night
22:40:19  skuttle ->  nihao ma?!
22:40:23  skuttle ->  woohoo
22:40:24  derrallg ->  @James break a leg
22:40:27  PeggyG ->  how is their travel to the US being funded?
22:40:30  skuttle ->  wo ai zhong wen
22:40:33  skuttle ->  haha
22:40:38  JL ->  Their English is very good - what has been most helpful for them in learning to speak English?
22:41:23  skuttle ->  i'm sure she will have a great trip here! everyone at the school is very excited for them to come!
22:41:28  mjmontagne ->  wow, I'm really, really floored...the kids are incredible
22:41:37  mrsdurff ->  hi hpang
22:41:51  hpang ->  hi
22:42:15  mrsdurff ->  that must be a sight - matt in a suit on the floor - get a photo of that
22:42:16  PeggyG ->  and watch movies so they can review them on gatorradio :-)
22:42:30  JL ->  How many hours a day do you spend studying?
22:42:31  mrsdurff ->  hey kim
22:42:39  kcaise ->  hi everyone
22:42:39  JL ->  wonder if it's differing in US and China
22:42:50  PeggyG ->  I would like to know that too JL
22:43:02  skuttle ->  xiexie!
22:43:13  PeggyG ->  thank you students from Shanghai!! what a wonderful experience for all of us to meet you!
22:43:29  mrsdurff ->  so Gators - what do YOU hope for the earth?
22:43:32  PeggyG ->  hooray! we get to meet their teacher :-)
22:43:55  hpang ->  great broadcast!
22:43:57  kcaise ->  how exciting Matt!
22:44:14  mrsdurff ->  now we know from where the good English comes
22:44:20  wdpiper ->  your kids did a really nice job
22:44:24  JL ->  I hope you all will webcast a show when Shanghai High students visit
22:44:29  stephgatorradio ->  thanks for listening
22:44:32  stephgatorradio ->  we're super nervous
22:44:39  PeggyG ->  how long is the trip from Shanghai to California?
22:44:47  mrsdurff ->  super good!
22:44:54  JL ->  you didn't sound it at all Stephanie - you must be a webcasting pro :)
22:45:09  skuttle ->  why is there spanish in the background?
22:45:20  nicola-gatorradio ->  yes thank you for your patience haha
22:45:21  mrsdurff ->  auto play
22:45:22  wdpiper ->  to the hosts- you did a great job engaging your interviewees... way to keep the conversation going
22:45:28  JL ->  you are probably listening to the puentes al mundo channel as wel
22:45:35  mrsdurff ->  just click that ustream twice
22:45:45  PeggyG ->  You are doing a fantastic job Steph! Great interviewing skills and thinking on your feet. I'm so in awe of all of you!
22:45:48  wdpiper ->  btw, I am a friend of Mr. Montagne's from Milwaukee for anyone who was wondering
22:46:32  Doug ->  @wdpiper cheeseheads always welcome :)
22:46:51  mrsdurff ->  food? did someone say food?
22:47:00  carolteach4 ->  Is there any chance of connecting a small class from Bethany Middle School in CT taking Mandarin with some students in Shanghai?
22:47:06  wdpiper ->  nice!
22:47:15  nicola-gatorradio ->  i hope everyone enjoyed the interview :)
22:47:27  wdpiper ->  @ nicola... we sure did
22:47:29  derrallg ->  @mrsdurff I don't think a cheesehead would taste very good
22:47:31  mrsdurff ->  i think these ought to do our show
22:47:37  Doug ->  this is too good
22:47:42  skuttle ->  aw!!
22:47:45  stephgatorradio ->  soooooo cute
22:47:51  didi ->  awww :)
22:47:52  wdpiper ->  this is adorable
22:47:53  nicola-gatorradio ->  i know they are so cute
22:48:02  mrsdurff ->  i could take off to Starbucks
22:48:08  PeggyG ->  what a treat to meet these students!
22:48:20  carolteach4 ->  We hear you loud and clear - so articulate!
22:48:21  stephgatorradio ->  omjonas sooo they're pro!
22:48:39  mjmontagne ->  future gator radio experience team members I hope!!!!
22:48:40  nicola-gatorradio ->  i know they sound better then us steph haha
22:48:48  PeggyG ->  that is so exciting to hear about the global club!!
22:49:03  stephgatorradio ->  AHAHAHA
22:49:04  stephgatorradio ->  SO TRUE
22:49:16  wdpiper ->  these are first graders... wow!
22:49:16  PeggyG ->  not tomorrow but today!! what an outstanding message!!
22:49:38  carolteach4 ->  Please send us the website, so kids from our school can join in.
22:49:47  skuttle ->  this is so adorable!
22:49:57  PeggyG ->  I LOVE this!! a youtube channel too!
22:49:59  JL ->  "The website will go live in July" - something I didn't know how to say in first grade!
22:50:19  PeggyG ->  what kinds of games are they making?
22:50:41  PeggyG ->  did you get that URL? :-)
22:50:43  derrallg ->  @JL agreed, new how to change channel on TV that was about it
22:50:59  kcaise ->  what was that email again?
22:51:14  carolteach4 ->  A little slower please
22:51:24  carolteach4 ->  please put that in the chat
22:51:32  wdpiper ->  [email protected]
22:51:42  kcaise ->  thank you
22:51:44  stephgatorradio ->  NO GIFTS?
22:51:45  LorrieD ->  Site is: http://www.earthsaversclubforkids.com/
22:52:06  wdpiper ->  no prob... just emailed them asking to let me know when they go live... my 5th graders next year will love that
22:52:21  mjmontagne ->  their website is going live on July 1
22:52:21  PeggyG ->  excellent-we can bookmark it and come back in July when it goes live :-)
22:53:38  mrsdurff ->  it's earth day right now somewhere in the world
22:53:50  mrsdurff ->  aw!
22:54:01  kcaise ->  how precious!
22:54:03  nicola-gatorradio ->  awwww i love them
22:54:05  skuttle ->  this is the cutest thing i have ever heard. omg.
22:54:06  PeggyG ->  what a delightful segment!! I'm grinning from ear to ear!
22:54:06  wdpiper ->  AWESOME!!!!  LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!
22:54:16  skuttle ->  this was the best gator radio ever!
22:54:24  derrallg ->  clap clap
22:54:28  wdpiper ->  encore!
22:54:29  PeggyG ->  just bookmarked the website on Diigo :-)
22:54:38  PeggyG ->  clap clap!! awesome!
22:54:53  stephgatorradio ->  LET ME BABYSIT YOU!
22:54:54  carolteach4 ->  Thank you so much.
22:54:55  skuttle ->  that was so great
22:55:02  didi ->  hahaah
22:55:03  skuttle ->  no I want to babysit them! hahaha
22:55:12  nicola-gatorradio ->  oh i'll babysit them
22:55:16  stephgatorradio ->  shhh noelle keep the conversation PG please
22:55:18  carolteach4 ->  I don't think they need babysitting.
22:55:22  PeggyG ->  http://gatorradio.blogspot.com/
22:55:44  skuttle ->  pg? what??
22:55:48  kcaise ->  what time is it in china right now?
22:55:56  stephgatorradio ->  GAHAHAHA JUST KIDDING
22:56:01  stephgatorradio ->  thanks for listening everyone
22:56:04  kcaise ->  i am really, really bad with time zones
22:56:07  stephgatorradio ->  i hope you're enjoying this!
22:56:12  PeggyG ->  can you drop the tinyurl link again in the chat?
22:56:14  wdpiper ->  I've gotta run, but wanted to say thanks for a great boradcast and thanks for all of your work
22:56:21  stephgatorradio ->  it is.... 2 o'clock i think in china
22:56:22  PeggyG ->  definitely enjoying this!!
22:56:23  wdpiper ->  great job!!!
22:56:34  wdpiper ->  Matt, thanks for your efforts- this is, once again, AWESOME.
22:56:34  mjmontagne ->  thanks all
22:56:41  mjmontagne ->  thanks pipes
22:56:45  wdpiper ->  cheers from 10:00 Brewers time!
22:57:08  LorrieD ->  It's about 11 am in Beijing, Wednesday.
22:57:46  skuttle ->  this is a really cool song!
22:57:49  carolteach4 ->  That's right. When I followed the time link sent earlier it was 10:00AM in Shanghai, so that would make it 11AM now.
22:57:56  kcaise ->  those little girls were amazing. no birthday presents.
22:58:07  kcaise ->  wanted donations to various causes instead
22:58:20  kcaise ->  selfless and mature little girls
22:58:22  mjmontagne ->  I'm big fan of the no presents
22:58:28  PeggyG ->  http://www.myspace.com/no7kid link for the song go green playing now
22:58:33  skuttle ->  yes me too. that is so sweet!
22:59:22  stephgatorradio ->  hahaha
23:00:03  mrsdurff ->  like Lorna would say, gatorradio is ordinary students doing extraordinary things
23:00:24  PeggyG ->  absolutely mrsdurff!